# What kiln do you use? **URL:** \ **Category:** Craft Talk\ **Created:** [16 January 2016 15:01 UTC](https://talk.folksy.com/t/what-kiln-do-you-use/9949 "2016-01-16T15:01:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 9\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![littlebirdydesigns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@littlebirdydesigns](https://talk.folksy.com/u/littlebirdydesigns)\ **Post date:** [16 January 2016 15:01 UTC](https://talk.folksy.com/t/what-kiln-do-you-use/9949/1 "2016-01-16T15:01:12Z")
Hello lovely folksy sellers. I’m looking to invest in a kiln so I can make items with a practical purpose! Initially I’d like to apply digital transfers to blank ceramics/bone china but would also like to experiment with making pieces myself in the long term. I’m just looking for a 13amp electric kiln to start with. I’ve done some research and I think to fire decals I need one that is capable of firing to 1450 degrees F/787 degrees C and a ceramic cone firing 17 but I’d love to hear from anyone who has actual experience of doing this or even has a kiln for sale or knows a good place to look? I’m based in East Yorkshire. ---
**Author:** ![avrilscott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/folksy/user_avatar/talk.folksy.com/avrilscott/32/10956_2.png) [@avrilscott](https://talk.folksy.com/u/avrilscott)\ **Post date:** [18 January 2016 20:42 UTC](https://talk.folksy.com/t/what-kiln-do-you-use/9949/2 "2016-01-18T20:42:56Z")
I have two kilns. A Paragon SC1 which is a wee workhorse and I use it for my ceramic work (for digital transfers). It’s quite small but I can usually get 4-5 pieces in at a time. It fires to over 800C. I also have a larger Skutt Firebox 14" which I use for glass fusing. I haven’t tried ceramics in that one as I don’t like to mix the two. Both great kilns and easy to programme. Both from WarmGlass which is UK based. ---
**Author:** ![littlebirdydesigns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@littlebirdydesigns](https://talk.folksy.com/u/littlebirdydesigns)\ **Post date:** [19 January 2016 12:56 UTC](https://talk.folksy.com/t/what-kiln-do-you-use/9949/3 "2016-01-19T12:56:17Z")
Hi Avril, thanks for replying. I’ve just had a nosey at your shop - what beautiful pieces! Good to know the Paragon kiln fires hot enough, I had looked at these but wasn’t sure if it would work for ceramics. I’m looking to apply my transfers to coasters and thing like eggcups etc so I might be better off with a slightly bigger version. I’ll check out Warmglass - thank you! ---
**Author:** ![littlebirdydesigns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@littlebirdydesigns](https://talk.folksy.com/u/littlebirdydesigns)\ **Post date:** [19 January 2016 13:14 UTC](https://talk.folksy.com/t/what-kiln-do-you-use/9949/4 "2016-01-19T13:14:38Z")
ooh thanks Avril - I’ve just had a look at warmglass and like the look of the Skutt Firebox 14 Glass Kiln, and the free delivery charge! I wonder why they are marketed as glass kilns and not ceramics - do you know why this is? it seems to reach the required temperature for firing transfers but obviously I don’t want to buy one if it’s not going to work on ceramics. ---
**Author:** ![avrilscott](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/folksy/user_avatar/talk.folksy.com/avrilscott/32/10956_2.png) [@avrilscott](https://talk.folksy.com/u/avrilscott)\ **Post date:** [19 January 2016 18:57 UTC](https://talk.folksy.com/t/what-kiln-do-you-use/9949/5 "2016-01-19T18:57:17Z")
It’s a great kiln! I think the difference is to do with the heating elements. Glass needs top heat whereas ceramics are better with side heating elements (I think - don’t quote me!). The Skutt has top elements and the Paragon has side elements. I haven’t used my glass kiln for ceramics so not sure what the outcome would be. I have used my small kiln for glass and it wasn’t great. I also use the small Paragon kiln for silver clay work and it’s great, and it works fine for my ceramic/decal work. Don’t know if that’s any help whatsoever! 🙂 I’m sure Warm Glass would help you out with any questions, they’re really helpful and their customer service/delivery is brilliant. ---
**Author:** ![HeavenlyAnarchist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dbc845/32.png) [@HeavenlyAnarchist](https://talk.folksy.com/u/HeavenlyAnarchist)\ **Post date:** [19 January 2016 23:10 UTC](https://talk.folksy.com/t/what-kiln-do-you-use/9949/6 "2016-01-19T23:10:19Z")
I have a paragon sc2. It is a glass kiln because it is not supposed to go over 1090 degrees c according to the instructions [http://www.warm-glass.co.uk/paragon-sc2-glass-kiln-free-uk-shipping-p-2776.html?cPath=180\_191](http://www.warm-glass.co.uk/paragon-sc2-glass-kiln-free-uk-shipping-p-2776.html?cPath=180_191). Consequently you can only fire earthenware in it (I’m not a potter but this is what my books tell me). But the sc2 does have side elements not top and is designed for glass and I use it for all my glass - jewellery, coasters, bowls etc. The sc2 is very small and more a hobbyist kiln but I do make 6 inch bowls in it and I fire ceramic decals onto glass. I dream of a Skutt 14 😄 ---
**Author:** ![littlebirdydesigns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e56c9b/32.png) [@littlebirdydesigns](https://talk.folksy.com/u/littlebirdydesigns)\ **Post date:** [20 January 2016 21:59 UTC](https://talk.folksy.com/t/what-kiln-do-you-use/9949/7 "2016-01-20T21:59:10Z")
thanks for the replies. I did a bit of googling and you’re right Avril the glass kilns have top elements and ceramic ones side elements, which as want it to mainly fire decals onto tiles I think should be okay? I asked the warm glass people if the skutt can be used to fire decals onto ceramics they’ve said it can and that they use the “automatic tac firing” - I don’t know if this means anything to you? I think I need to do a bit more research before taking the plunge. At this stage Annie, I don’t actually need to fire any clay I’m just wanting to fire decals onto already glazed and fired blank ceramics so I _think_ the skutt will be okay for that. I want to be a little more certain before I pay out for it though! ---
**Author:** ![HeavenlyAnarchist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/dbc845/32.png) [@HeavenlyAnarchist](https://talk.folksy.com/u/HeavenlyAnarchist)\ **Post date:** [20 January 2016 22:11 UTC](https://talk.folksy.com/t/what-kiln-do-you-use/9949/8 "2016-01-20T22:11:12Z")
It will be a tack fuse setting, a setting used to adhere glass together. I use my own tack fuse setting when applying ceramic decals to glass. I assume it will be the same onto ceramics. ---
**Author:** ![EP2Glass](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/folksy/user_avatar/talk.folksy.com/ep2glass/32/10924_2.png) [@EP2Glass](https://talk.folksy.com/u/EP2Glass)\ **Post date:** [23 January 2016 23:32 UTC](https://talk.folksy.com/t/what-kiln-do-you-use/9949/9 "2016-01-23T23:32:25Z")
I use the Skutt for firing decals into glass and I use the TAC setting which works great. With the ceramics I use the small Paragon which I only fire to 200C mainly because the pottery I use is recycled so I’m never sure of the glaze, finish etc (it’s a bit complicated!) but it usually works! If you have a uniform glaze (I sometimes fire eggcups) I fire to 800C and it works fine! Let us know how you get on!