Rather than wait till you list another item, why not edit the titles on the ones you have listed already to include those important words like woven, card, hand stitched etc?
And try adding some tags - Looks like you arent using any. These will help your items get picked up on a search. I see that “wall hanging” is coming up later in the month for a Theme of the Day ( you can see the full list on your dashboard) so if you used that as a tag for your wall hanging it would be sure to come up at random.
PS I just put “woven wall hanging” into the search and, yes, the one you call “Woodland Walk” came up on the first page. I guess because you had used that exact phrase in your description.
I handmade every single part of all my glass pieces. Meticulously professionally with expertise and experience. As I am sure do ALL the Plus or non Pus member on here. the Plus membership has nothing whatsoever to do with what we make or how we make it and to be honest I suggest you might want to remove that comment as it is really quite insulting.
All my items are handcrafted and taken years to stock my shop. Not sure why you infer plus members do not make from scratch. As Joy said that is not on. I make everyday and never buy ready made items in things to sell. My journals can take days to complete. Nothing is done quickly. Hand stitching signatures is time consuming.
As a plus seller who has along with others offered constructive advice on your listings which you don’t seem yet to have followed, you might like to check out my selection of greetings cards professionally produced to a very high quality from my original drawings. No cheap photocopies here. Nor have i come across any such elsewhere on Folksy, plus sellers or otherwise.
Im not sure why so many feathers where ruffled as i was talking mainly about catrds .Hand making every single card with hand embroidery or tapestry or felted scenes is going to take longer than photocopying a drawing however professionlyl done . I have made srained glass and moulded glass and made jewelery and silver boxes and enamelling . So i know a little how long each takes and i know also that textiles in general are not valued quite as highly I do it because thats what i like doing .I know i have a lot to get on with as regards IT but bit by bit ill get there . Sorry for ruffled feathers as it wasnt meant to be insulting to anyone but in general some things do take a bit longer than others it doesnt mean they are better or any thing like that ..in the world in general textiles havent had a great deal of success .i do hope that those doing their embroidered pictures do very well.
Maybe it would be clearer if your prices reflected the time and effort taken. If you do not value your work by setting such low prices you cannot expect others to.
I also think feathers get ruffled when people ask for advice and then don’t take it but ask for more advice.
We are a friendly helpful lot on here, we give our advice and therefore time freely but repeatedly advising for it to be discounted tends to make us not quite as helpful
Thank you for the apology Mary, sometimes things written down can take several meanings. I make cards as bread and butter. Stopped making complicated cards years ago as just did not sell.
As Joy said sometimes pricing too low make people ask why is it so cheap.
Oh no i dont think i would sell then either , i mean in general . Some things fall into art and design like making a pot or jewellry but when i did another course years ago i was told then that weavers never made any money and i dont really expect too .i made a but mire of course weaving larger things but never as much as you might expect . .i tnink in general textiles were always seen as womenscwirk and you shouldntvreally expectvtok much. Hiwever i think in America its a bit different .
Sorry i pressed by mistake before i had corrected my mistakes.its duevto what they nicely called tapered fingers but we call them crooked crannies .if i could rearrange my typing screen i would .
It’s the algorithm that Folksy have set up for their new Search, that picks up words that are in the title, description and tags - even if those words are descriptive of an image rather than a phsical technique. .
This isn’t wrong - crafters are entitled to use terms that describe their items, but I appreciate it’s sometimes frustrating if the results in Search are skewed more towards printed cards or non-card woven items. But to be clear, this is because of Folksy Search picking up what is in the sellers listings. .
I work in textiles and do a lot of embroidery and applique, among other things. My heavily worked or embellished items are rather pricy but realistically I can’t price in all the time taken as they would be totally unaffordable. So I try and recoup a bit of extra by selling lower priced items based off these statement makes. As they are less “time consuming” I can stock multiples of these (I am Plus so it works for me, but I could list one at a time if I wasn’t Plus).
This is a pretty standard approach in crafting - artists have always done originals and limited edition prints, and are increasingly offering printed items such as cards, tea towels or coasters. Folksy product listing rules expressly allow this - as long as the original art/crafted item was made by the seller.
For example, I have
Professionally printed cards that use close up photographs of my applique and embroidery
Sew it yourself kits that are based on one of my unique embroidered or appliqued designs
Cards and bookmarks that use my fabric scraps, with just a little machine or hand embroidery, or buttons or trim added
As I use the terms appliqued or embroidered, these items show up in Search for these terms, alongside more labour intensive items that I (and other sellers) make. It doesn’t make them less valued.
How to improve visibilty of your items
In your example, Search doesn’t differentiate between “woven” used as to describe the technique used in the item, or as a term to describe an item in a drawing or photograph. It should link woven and card together, but it will bring non-card items in too. Howewer, it doesn’t always work correctly. I just tried woven cards, and your items are there, but well below other non card makes.
Part of that is your title doesn’t include the words Woven Card and you don’t include any Tags at all. Title is the highest rank in Search, and Tags are third (there are other criteria too). You just mention the words once in a very short description. So your item will unfortunately sit below other listings that mention woven OR card in title or tags.
An example of one of my makes - if I search for appliqued cards, this printed card appears on the first page as the individual words are in title, tags and the description. It’s not wrong for me to use those words as it is a card, and its based on my appliqued work.
Try changing your existing listings to include the term in title and tags - it doesn’t cost you anything to change a listing if you don’t change the stock numbers. And expand the description to use the words more that once, for example, This card includes a piece of my woven textiles that I weave myself using a XYZ loom (or other method).
Give a while (it can take some time to change the Search results) and see if your item jumps higher up the page. You can also look at Folksy’s blog about how to maximise your listings to be found.
If doing the above really doesn’t work, use the Feedback button on Search (it’s under the orange search icon), and then email Folksy admin. They may not be able to change things - unless it’s an obvuois error - but we are at least letting them know things aren’t always working as they should.
Thanks for that . I have filled in tags before but they seem to disappear this last time though i tyoed in colours and materials in the right places everything else appeared but they didnt i begin to think these machines have a mind of their own.i wouldnt expect to get the sane for a hand woven piece unless it was tapestry .as i would for an embroidery piece. Im not worried about my prices for my things its just getting everything to work .
Mame sure you click on " update item " right at the bottom of the page, after you have edited.
I fell for that one at first - I did the edit but never clicked on the update button.
Colours and Materials aren’t important in Search, if fact I think they might not be picked up at all. They are useful info for customers, but make sure the keys words you want people to search for are in Title, Tags, and then description.
My comment on lower priced makes to help recoup income foregone in higher cost items was in respect to your other comments about photocopied items (aka printed), and to explain why artists do this sort of extended product range.
Sorry to have ruffled your feathers too . You do seem to have made mamy many things so i can see that plus would apply yo you .i was really thinking of the hand embroidered cards really and,tapestries .i was,hinking that would be harder to do with plus not a judgement on anyone else so once again apologies to smoothel the ruffled feathers ..
