Yes, of course, but I didn’t use a detailed search 
A more helpful example: Search for “tea wallet” as a popular handmade thing - Folksy results are high (not top, but alongside Etsy, Ebay and Amazon) under Shopping, Images and first page of All.
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Sorry not something i would ever search for. I don’t drink tea 
and wouldnt think of buying any 
Used to use Pinterest all the time but I think I pressed to change to a business account now I seem to have no clue what Im doing on it so time consuming all the tech stuff but we get there or we die trying lol
I was responding to your question about whether Folksy had dropped out of Google search like they did before.
Sorry Debbie as a non tea drinker I was a bit amused by your choice of search Naughty of me and I apologise xx. Yes I agree Folksy has not gone Google invisible as it did before.
I do think it is more likely the internal Folksy search which is causing the lack of shop visits… Fine if you get to Folksy but try finding what you want via a search… I give up usually.
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My views are noticeably down. I had wondered if it was because many have recently opened a Folksy shop recently after leaving Etsy. Could this have an effect on us?
I have mentioned previously about my items for sun catchers don’t appear until page 8 of a folksy search and no one is going to plough through all of those to get to mine. Folksy needs to find a fairer way to list search results as other shops before mine have all their products lumped together.
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I agree. Also on some of the links front the front page, you get several from the same shops. They need to do something about it being more fairer. @coolforglass
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I wondered why that lumping together happens too!
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I think that’s got something to do with Plus sellers having the ability to renew items almost daily, so when they renew the whole shop it automatically lumps everything from that shop together, to be honest I think it looks awful from a buyers perspective, if what I see in the first few pages isn’t to my tastes I’ll just leave Folksy and look elsewhere, I hope that isn’t what most people do but I fear it may be.
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Really! I didn’t realise that people renewed their whole shop every day. That doesn’t seem fair but then if Folksy offer that facility for a monthly fee then maybe that is what happens. Oh, I’m not going to think about it any more 
going to have some lunch instead.
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Im not saying for a moment that everyone does it, I do know there are a few who do but there are also many, many shops who maybe only renew a set amount each day too.
When I was a plus account I used to relist about 5 items each day in rotation so that I didn’t swamp the pages but it does happen.
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I have a plus account and yes I totally agree with you that I wish Folksy would find a better way to show things in search, also it’s not fair for shops that don’t have a plus account, their stuff gets pushed to the back really quickly and will be harder to find.
I tend to relist about 4-5 items at a time and then a few hours later I’ll do a few more and so on throughout the day so not to swamp search with all my stuff.
Folksy has been doing it this way for years and I think it’s time they sorted it out to make it fair for everyone.
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In the search i honestly don’t think it is newness of listing which brings things up first. I think it is the way search seems to operate only using the listing title and takes especial note of the order of the words. Nothing else seems to count.
So I search ‘stained glass suncatchers’ not surprisingly some of mine come up near the front but they are NOT the stained glass suncatchers which I listed or even relisted most recently. In fact I have no idea why those particular ones are shown first. My order of listing appears to have nothing at all to do with the order they appear in search.
I don’t relist every day. Life is too short and i have a lot of pages and it would take me ages. I relist a page at a time when listings come near their due date as it is an absolute nightmare trying to retrieve any live ones which got delisted if I don;t catch them first.
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I think it’s a really good point about bulk listing I’m sure customers are tired of seeing pages of just one shop when they visit.
I’ve got a plus account and do the daily challenge thread so I tend to renew or add 1 item every day. Sometimes I renew 4 or 5 items in one go if the renewal date is due but I think it is important to be fair to everyone and give interest and variety to the Folksy pages.
When people renew in bulk the block of listings don’t look attractive to customers and push other people off the page. If customers get ‘fed up’ seeing the same stuff they will probably stop browsing which doesn’t help anyone.
I wonder if Folksy could limit the number of items people can relist to say 10 per day or perhaps just discourage bulk renewals over a certain amount?
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I have 700+ listings. So I would have to relist 70+ days a year which would make my relisting far far more frequent than currently and would exacerbate the very problem of frequent relisters.
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I naively thought that when it said unlimited free listings that it was for people who make a lot of items! I didn’t realise that it was used as a marketing tool.
When the internal folksy search algorithm was updated how recently a listing was listed/ relisted was significantly demoted in how the search results were ranked. Instead the algorithm started prioritising based on where and how often the search term appeared in the title/ description/ tags/ category with highest priority being given to the words at the beginning of the title. So if you run a search for ‘suncatcher’ the listings at the top of the results have suncatcher (or sun catcher) at the start of the title, the next chunk of the results have suncatcher as the second word of the title, the next chunk has suncatcher as the 3rd word in the title. (@coolforglass I looked at several of your listings and they didn’t have suncatcher/ sun catcher in the title which means that those listings won’t rank highly in the results for that search term).
If a shop has spent the time optimising for a particular search term then their listings will clump together in the search results as the algorithm can’t decide which is most relevant.
Here’s the blog article on it for anyone who’s not read it, it was updated after the search algorithm was changed
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I’m a Plus member and I absolutely never relist things that aren’t due for renewal. Sometimes, if I have a clump of items coming up for renewal, I’ll spread their renewal over several days to avoid plastering my stuff all over. I think mass renewing makes Folksy look awful and that it most likely stops buyers browsing. If the first few items you see from one shop don’t appeal to you, how likely would you be to continue browsing after 1 or 2 pages of them!
It may well make me unpopular for saying it but I think it’s super selfish to do mass renew purely as some type of misguided marketing ploy - we should all be working together to support Folksy and each other if we want the community to become more successful. Anything else is surely shortsighted and destructive.
Yes, I’ve wanted to say that for a while - LOL!
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I haven’t noticed a drop because I haven’t been around long enough to build up those stats to compare, BUT I am suprised that I only have one or two Google searches in my stats. I thought there would be more …
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You could take advantage of the relist facility which is only available to plus account holders. Like others have said just relist 3 or 4 items now and again. So you have some of your items on the front page at some point. I agree that it doesnt look good for buyers when a seller relists their whole shop at once though.
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